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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Nov 2020 09:27

A pleasure :-D :-D

PatW

PatW Report 9 Nov 2020 23:06

Thank you for that ErikaH. You’ve certainly been busy and it’s appreciated.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Nov 2020 13:15

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Small Bridge, Rochdale, Lancashire, England

Mary Crossley Female 35 1806 Lancashire, England
Robert Crossley Male 15 1826 Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Crossley Female 8 1833 Lancashire, England
Betsey Crossley Female 6 1835 Lancashire, England
Squire Crossley Male 4 1837 Lancashire, England
Nancy Crossley Female 15 1826 Lancashire, England
William Smith Male 15 1826 Lancashire, England
David Smith Male 15 1826 Lancashire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Nov 2020 11:00

Marriage: 9 May 1859 St George, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Squire Crossley - (X), 20, Collier, Bachelor, Cooper's Yard
Louisa Simpson - (X), 22, Spinster, Cooper's Yard
Groom's Father: Uriah Crossley, Stoker
Bride's Father: Joseph Simpson, Mechanic
Witness: Robert Smith, (X); Elizabeth Smith, (X)
Married by Banns by: John Clarke, Curate
Notes: [Bride's firstname is recorded as Elizabeth at her mark]
Register: Marriages 1854 - 1861, Page 165, Entry 329
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Marriage: 21 Mar 1888 Holy Trinity, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Squire Crossley - (X), 50, Collier, Widower, 7 Bk Foundry St
Elizabeth Heyes - (X), 45, Widow, 7 Bk Foundry St
Groom's Father: Uriah Crossley, (deceased), Firebeater
Bride's Father: Robert Cheetham, (deceased), Collier
Witness: James Muddiman; Sarah Ann Charlson
Married by Banns by: Charles Lowe Vicar
Register: Marriages 1886 - 1897, Page 37, Entry 73
Source: LDS Film 1966126

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Nov 2020 10:59

Baptism: 21 Aug 1826 St Stephen, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Nancy Crossley - Daughter of Uriah Crossley & Mary
Abode: Smallbridge in the parish of Middle undersfield in the County of Lancaster
Baptised by: B. Woodyard
Register: Baptisms 1802 - 1837, Page 90
Source: LDS Family Search

Siblings

Baptism: 4 Apr 1820 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Mary Ann Crossley - Daughter of Uriah Crossley & Mary
Abode: Small Bridge
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: Thos. Royds
Register: Baptisms 1818 - 1822, Page 29, Entry 230
Source: LDS Film 1342496

Baptism: 19 Aug 1821 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Sarah Crossley - Daur. of Uriah Crossley & Mary
Abode: Smallbridge
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: Thos. S. Mills Curate
Register: Baptisms 1818 - 1822, Page 68, Entry 542
Source: LDS Film 1342496

Baptism: 30 Mar 1823 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Robert Crossley - son of Uriah Crossley & Mary
Abode: Small Bridge
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: Jas. Aspinall ,Curate
Register: Baptisms 1822 - 1827, Page 34, Entry 265
Source: LDS Family Search

Baptism: 9 Jan 1825 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Jas. Crossley - son of Uriah Crossley & Mary
Abode: Small bridge
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: Jas. Aspinall, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1822 - 1827, Page 4, Entry 28
Source: LDS Family Search

Baptism: 30 Mar 1834 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Crossley - [Child] of Uriah Crossley & Mary
Abode: Small Bridge
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: F. Gardner Curate
Register: Baptisms 1832 - 1834, Page 26, Entry 206
Source: LDS Family Search

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Baptism: 10 Jul 1796 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Uriah Crossley - Son of Robt. Crossley & Martha
Abode: Wardleworth
Occupation: Coalminer
Baptised by: Thos. Bellas, Curate
Source: LDS Film 2356442 and 1545749
Marriage: 9 Dec 1817 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Uriah Crossley - (X), this parish
Mary Bridge - (X), this parish
Witness: Daniel Nield, Parish Clerk; Geo. Fletcher
Married by Banns by: Thos. Royds A.B. Curate
Register: Marriages 1816 - 1818, Page 122, Entry 366
Source: LDS Family Search


1851

Name: Uriah Crossley
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Crossley
Gender: Male
Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Wuerdle and Wardle
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration District: Rochdale
Sub-registration District: Wardleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 142
Piece: 2246
Folio: 500
Page Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
Uriah Crossley 56
Mary Crossley 54
Elizabeth Crossley 19
Betsey Crossley 18
Squire Crossley 14
Joseph Crossley 9
Nancy Lord 24 daughter*****************************Married
Mary A Crossley 55

**********************probably sheer coincidence, but one of the witnesses to James Robinson's marriage to Jane Duckworth was named Lord

CROSSLEY Joseph BRIDGE 1842 Wuerdle and Wardle Rochdale WUW/4/10


CROSSLEY Martha BRIDGE 1839 Wuerdle and Wardle Rochdale WUW/1/483

Surname Forename(s) Age or Date of Birth Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
CROSSLEY Martha 0 1840 Wuerdle and Wardle Rochdale WUW/1/99

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Nov 2020 10:44

Burial: 13 Oct 1852 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Robert Robinson - Son of James Robinson
Age: 1
Abode: Pinfold
Buried by: Wm Grant Curate
Register: Burials 1848 - 1854, Page 76, Entry 608
Source: LDS Film 2356505

PatW

PatW Report 8 Nov 2020 18:52

I’ll look into that greyghost thank you.

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Nov 2020 18:37

Could this be a possibility? Smallbridge is to the South of Wardle. Ages a bit out.

Marriage: 22 Sep 1850 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
James Robinson - (X), 21, Lab:, Bachelor, Small Bridge
Nancy Crossley - (X), 24, Spinster, Small Bridge
Groom's Father: James Robinson, Lab:
Bride's Father: Uriah Crossley, Engineer
Witness: William Bridge, (X); Frances Jepson, (X)
Married by Banns by: Wm. Grant, Curate
Register: Marriages 1850, Page 243, Entry 485
Source: LDS Family Search



Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ROBINSON, ROBERT CROSSLEY
GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 21 Page 882


Name: Age at Death (in years):
ROBINSON, NANCY 25
GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 53

PatW

PatW Report 8 Nov 2020 18:03

Just realised that James was a widower when he married in 1854 which I didn’t know.
I’ve found a James Robinson marrying a Hannah Hargreaves in Newchurch 1846 but as he was born in 1831c surely he would have been too young. Another can of worms for me to look into.
Thank you EricaH for the website. I will use that in future.
Thanks to all for your help. It’s more than I expected.

safc

safc Report 8 Nov 2020 17:34

Record Transcription:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Fall Barn, New Church, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
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Agnes Duckworth
Census Record
Lancashire, England
Year of census: 1841
Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Duckworth Head Married Male 53 1798 Sewyer Preston, Lancashire, England
Mary Duckworth Wife Married Female 50 1801 - Colne, Lancashire, England
James Duckworth Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1831 Cotton Trostle Spinner Colne, Lancashire, England xx image says jane ?
John Duckworth Son Unmarried Male 17 1834 Cotton Weaver Colne, Lancashire, England
Alice Duckworth Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1835 Cotton Piecer Colne, Lancashire, England
William Duckworth Son Unmarried Male 14 1837 Cotton Engine Tuder Newchurch, Lancashire, England
Agnes Duckworth Daughter - Female 11 1840 Cotton Creeler Todmorden, Lancashire, England
Mary Duckworth Daughter - Female 8 1843 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Richard Duckworth Son - Male 5 1846 Scholar Newchurch, Lancashire, England
George H Duckworth Son - Male 1 1850 - Newchurch, Lancashire, England
William Duckworth Lodger Married Male 35 1816 Cotton Weaver Preston, Lancashire, England
James Duckworth Lodger Unmarried Male 20 1831 Cotton Weaver Preston, Lancashire, England
Sarah Duckworth Lodger Unmarried Female 18 1833 Cotton Weaver Preston, Lancashire, England
Ingham Duckworth Lodger Unmarried Male 14 1837 Cotton Weaver Colne, Lancashire, England

safc

safc Report 8 Nov 2020 17:33

Record Transcription:
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Gauxholme, Rochdale, Todmorden, Lancashire, England
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Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
John Duckworth Male 40 1801 -
Mary Duckworth Female 35 1806 -
Jane Duckworth Female 9 1832 -
John Duckworth Male 8 1833 -
Alice Duckworth Female 5 1836 -
William Duckworth Male 3 1838 Lancashire, England
Agnes Duckworth Female 1 1840 Lancashire, England

john is a sawyer

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Nov 2020 17:15

Connie

I posted the lanopc site link - always try it for all such queries

PatW

PatW Report 8 Nov 2020 17:13

That brilliant. Thank you.

safc

safc Report 8 Nov 2020 16:57

Marriage: 14 Mar 1854 St Nicholas, Newchurch in Rossendale, Lancashire, England
James Robinson - (X), of full age, Labourer, Widower, Newchurch
Jane Duckworth - (X), of full age, Throstle Spinner, Spinster, Newchurch
Groom's Father: James Robinson, Labourer
Bride's Father: John Duckworth, Sawyer
Witness: Edward Lord, (X); Elizabeth Welsh, (X)
Married by Banns by: J. B. Phillips, M. A.
Register: Marriages 1853 - 1864, Page 21, Entry 41
Source: Original Parish Register

PatW

PatW Report 8 Nov 2020 16:46

I wondered if I could ask one last favour please.
James was born in 1831c in Wardlesworth, Rochdale and married Jane Duckworth at St Nicholas Church, Newchurch, in 1854. Is it possible to look up their wedding details so I would know who their fathers were?
I have sent an email to the church concerned but not sure if they will be able to help due to the Covid crisis or even if that’s the best way to go about getting the information.
Many thanks

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Nov 2020 16:28

PHYTHIAN, HARRY ROBINSON
GRO Reference: 1891 J Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 22
PHYTHIAN, RICHARD ROBINSON
GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 56
PHYTHIAN, ARTHUR ROBINSON
GRO Reference: 1894 M Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 9
PHYTHIAN, PERCY ROBINSON
GRO Reference: 1895 S Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 15

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Nov 2020 16:22

Marriage: 23 Oct 1890 St Clement, Spotland, Lancashire, England
Robert Phythian - 24, Tinplate Worker, Bachelor, Bridge St.
Mary Jane Robinson - 23, Spinster, Lomax St.
Groom's Father: Richard Phythian, Carter
Bride's Father: James Robinson, Dyer
Witness: John Eastwood; Sarah Ann Stott
Married by Licence by: Kenyon R. Hoyle
Register: Marriages 1873 - 1892, Page 228, Entry 456
Source: LDS Family Search


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
New Barn Lane, Castleton, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Robert Phythian Head Married Male 26 1865 Tin Plate Worker Stockport, Cheshire, England
Mary J Phythian Wife Married Female 25 1866 - Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Richard Phythian Son - Male 2 1889 - Rochdale, Lancashire, England


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
33, Bedford Street, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Robert Phythian Head Married Male 35 1866 Tin Plate Worker Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Mary J Phythian Wife Married Female 34 1867 - Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Richard Phythian Son - Male 12 1889 Piecer Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Harry Phythian Son - Male 9 1892 - Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Percy Phythian Son - Male 5 1896 - Rochdale, Lancashire, England


1911 Census For England & Wales
18 Durham Street Rochdale, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Robert Phythian Head Married Male 46 1865 Foreman Street Metal Worker Stockport
Mary Jane Phythian Wife Married Female 46 1865 - Rochdale
Harry Phythian Son Single Male 20 1891 Joiner Rochdale
Percy Phythian Son Single Male 16 1895 Provision Warehouse Rochdale

FOUR children born in marriage - ONE has died


1939
1 Ventnor Avenue, Whiteway, Bristol C.B., Gloucestershire, England
Percy Phythian 20 Jul 1895 Male Foreman Aircraft Inspector Married 196 1
Ivy Phythian 13 Dec 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 196 2
Renee M Miles (Phythian) 12 Aug 1920 Female Chocolate Packer Single 196 3
The record for this person is officially closed
Mary J Phythian 09 Jun 1866 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 196 5


DEATH

First name(s) MARY J
Last name PHYTHIAN
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1867
Age 73
Death quarter 1
Death year 1940
District Bristol

PatW

PatW Report 8 Nov 2020 16:09

Many thanks to you all for your help. It’s greatly appreciated. It will take time to read and digest.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Nov 2020 15:55

1939 (Note DoB)

Name: Richard Robinson
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 12 Nov 1868
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 13 Bonser Road
Residence Place: Twickenham, Middlesex, England
Occupation: Engineer Machine Shop Fore??
Line Number: 10
Schedule Number: 108
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: BUDS
Borough: Twickenham
Registration District: 128/2
Household Members:
Name
Richard Robinson
Eliza A Robinson Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 15 May 1872
Nora Robinson Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 17 Feb 1906
Edith Robinson Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 11 Apr 1908

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Nov 2020 15:51

Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ROBINSON Richard GREENFIELD Eliza Ann 1892 Rochdale Register Office or Registrar Attended Rochdale RM/91/63

Name: Richard Robinson
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Eliza Am Robinson.................................born Dudley
Birth Place: Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Rochdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Chad
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration District: Rochdale
Sub-registration District: Castleton Nearer
ED, institution, or vessel: 08
Piece: 3834
Folio: 139
Page Number: 3
Household Schedule Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Robinson 32
Eliza Am Robinson 28
Arthur Robinson 7
Harry Robinson 5
Albert Robinson 3
Frank Robinson 8/12