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Smith Travellers
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Unknown | Report | 4 Mar 2021 21:50 |
Hi everyone i am researching my partners tree and we do not know her grandparents her father Charles Smith was born in 1931 and his mother died approx 1938 in Hillingdon and he and his siblings Walter and Noah went to live with his aunt Matilda Fletcher and her mother Selina Smith and we know one of Matildas siblings was Charlies mother but we are having trouble finding them can anyone help? :-) |
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nameslessone | Report | 5 Mar 2021 08:56 |
A Marriage certificate would give the name and occupation of both fathers if known. A birth certificate would give the name of both parents if they were together. |
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ErikaH | Report | 5 Mar 2021 09:55 |
Get copies of certificates |
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nameslessone | Report | 5 Mar 2021 10:36 |
If they are Travellers then the Romany & Traveller family history society (www.rtfhs.org.uk) might be of some help. |
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it | Report | 5 Mar 2021 10:49 |
When and whom did Charles smith marry |
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ErikaH | Report | 5 Mar 2021 11:11 |
If Matilda Fletcher was Charles's mother's sister, and HER mother was Selina Smith, by definition Selina was Charles's grandmother. |
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ArgyllGran | Report | 5 Mar 2021 11:40 |
Can't see any marriage of a Matilda Smith to a Fletcher 1900-39. |
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ArgyllGran | Report | 5 Mar 2021 12:02 |
??? Just a suggestion: |
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ErikaH | Report | 5 Mar 2021 12:20 |
We need more info from Peter |
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Maddie | Report | 5 Mar 2021 14:33 |
????? |
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ErikaH | Report | 5 Mar 2021 14:53 |
Ancestry links this death to the birth.......................and there is no birth for Norman N Smith in 1926 |
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Kay???? | Report | 5 Mar 2021 16:24 |
Its very common l in the traverller community for same named cousins to marry,,,,,,so Smith and Smith births may not be the cause of illegitimate children.. |
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Unknown | Report | 5 Mar 2021 18:32 |
Walter,Noah and Charles have all died I have found a Selina Smith in the 1911 census living in Feltham Middlesex and born in Southampton 1881 and that was the same year Selina Smith in 1939 register was born and I can verify the one in the 1939 register is correct because my partner remembers going to Vine Place Hounslow as a small child .The Selina Smith in 1911 census is listed with 6 children and her address is very close to where Vine Place is but I can not link one of the female children to Charles |
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nameslessone | Report | 5 Mar 2021 18:42 |
You won’t be able to find which one is Charles’ mother without his birth certificate. |
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ErikaH | Report | 5 Mar 2021 18:46 |
If you want us to help, you’ll have to be more forthcoming with info. |
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nameslessone | Report | 5 Mar 2021 19:02 |
The 1911 census has Selina born 1880 Southampton, living in a caravan in Feltham. |
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ErikaH | Report | 5 Mar 2021 19:04 |
The 1911 census states they have produced 8 children, of whom 2 have died. `There are 6 living with them - none named Matilda, so when was she born? |
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ErikaH | Report | 5 Mar 2021 19:09 |
There is possible birth on freebmd for Selina AMJ 1880 |
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Unknown | Report | 5 Mar 2021 19:12 |
The story is Selina had 3 girls with a Mr Fletcher but was not married to him and there is a story that the other 2 girls were jealous of Matilda so set fire to their caravan I am not sure how relevant this may be |
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ErikaH | Report | 5 Mar 2021 19:54 |
Will you please give us some dates. |