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22 Apr 2021 15:52 |
sorry no can find
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ArgyllGran
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22 Apr 2021 15:27 |
Oh well done, Maddie!
Somehow the significance of Mary's son Harry in 1901 hadn't registered with me!
Looking again at the 1911 census where Harry is with James Digby and family, his age is actually 24 (as, in fact, stated in Ancestry's transcription) , and not 44 as in the FMP version posted by GG. - so that's Mary's son.
So there's a possibility that Harry was Alfred and Rose's half-brother. As he was 18 years older than Alfred, he may have seemed like a father-figure to Alfred, who possibly didn't know who his father was.
Where is Harry in 1891? He's not with his parents.
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22 Apr 2021 13:44 |
harry stratton
Name: Henry Strattion Gender: Male Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 18 Mar 1886 Baptism Place: England, Holy Trinity, Kensington and Chelsea Father: Charles Strattion Mother: Mary Ann Strattion Register Type: Parish Registers
daisy Name: Daisy May Stratton Gender: Female Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 23 Dec 1894 Baptism Place: England, South Acton, Ealing Father: Charles Stratton Mother: Mary Stratton Register Type: Parish Registers
florence Name: Florence Maud Stratton Gender: Female Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 7 Jun 1897 Baptism Place: England, Acton St Mary, Ealing Father: Charles Stratton Mother: Mary Stratton Register Type: Parish Registers
Name: Charles Shatton [ ] Gender: Male Marriage Age: 27 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1864 Marriage Date: 14 Sep 1891 Marriage Place: South Acton, Ealing, England Father: Charles Henry Shatton Spouse: Mary Lewis b 1865 father john lewis
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Charles Stratton Gender: Male Age: 27 Relationship: Boarder Birth Year: 1864 Birth Place: N Civil Parish: Acton Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Residence Place: Acton, Acton, Middlesex, England Registration District: Brentford Sub registration district: Acton ED, Institution or Vessel: 12 Neighbors: Piece: 1037 Folio: 50 Household Members: Name Age Mary Liddington 31 Charles Stratton 27 Mary Lewis 26 - wife to be John Stratton 25 Emily A English 21 Daisy E Liddington 9/12
Name: Charles Stratton Gender: Male Age: 11 Birth Date: 11 Feb 1863 Admission Date: Mar 1874 School: Morning Lane School Father: Charles Stratton
Charles Last name Stratton Birth date/age 3 Feb 1864 Baptism year 1864 Baptism date 12 Jun 1864 Place Hammersmith, St Stephen Residence 5 Williams Cottages, Latymer Road Relationship Son Father's first name(s) Charles Mother's first name(s) Mary Ann Occupation Labourer County Middlesex
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Kim from Sandhurst
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21 Apr 2021 18:04 |
Wow, Thank you all, now I have to piece it all together
Kim xx
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ArgyllGran
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21 Apr 2021 17:23 |
On the 1891 census above, Harry Digby (who in 1901 is at the address on Rose Elizabeth's baptism record) has a brother Thomas.
And there's Mary Stratton of roughly the same age living along the road.
Perhaps they pretended to be married for the sake of respectability when having the children baptised? And Mary gave her surnme at that time as her maiden name.
If they weren't married, then Alfred might well have considered himself to be a Stratton rather than a Digby.
I can't see Thomas after 1891.
Possibly Mary Stratton in 1911 ??
Mary Stratton in the 1911 England Census Name: Mary Stratton Age in 1911: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation to Head: Inmate Gender: Female Birth Place: N K Civil Parish: Isleworth Country: England Street Address: The Brentford Union Workhouse, Isleworth Marital status: Widowed Occupation: Laundrywork Registration District Number: 128 Sub-registration District: Isleworth ED, institution, or vessel: 28-37 Piece: 6833
Harry Digby also had a brother James, who, I think, is the James in 1911 with whom Harry Stratton is living. Still don't know who Harry Stratton is, though!
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Kim from Sandhurst
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21 Apr 2021 16:18 |
Can I post photo's on here now?
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ArgyllGran
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21 Apr 2021 13:40 |
In 1901 there's a widowed Mary Stratton at 56 Somerset Road:
Mary Shatton in the 1901 England Census Name: Mary Shatton [Mary Stratton] Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Chiswick, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Acton Ecclesiastical parish: South Acton All Saints Town: Acton County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: 56 Somerset Road Registration District: Brentford Sub-registration District: Acton ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: Piece: 1203 Folio: 54 Page Number: 29 Household Schedule Number: 165 Household Members: Name Age Mary Shatton 38 - widow Harry Shatton 14 John Shatton 8 Daisy Shatton 6 Florence Shatton 5 Annie Holding 23 William Holding 4/12
Her husband was Charles:
Daisy May Stratton in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917 Name: Daisy May Stratton Gender: Female Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 23 Dec 1894 Baptism Place: England, South Acton, Ealing Father: Charles Stratton Mother: Mary Stratton Register Type: Parish Registers
Charles Stratton in the England & Scotland, Select Cemetery Registers, 1800-2016 Name: Charles Stratton Age: 32 Record Type: Burial Birth Date: abt 1864 Death Date: abt 1896 Burial Date: 9 Dec 1896 Burial Place: Ealing, Greater London, England Cemetery: Acton Cemetery Grave Number: E26a/i Interment Number: 352
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ArgyllGran
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21 Apr 2021 13:30 |
Harry Digby in the 1901 England Census Name: Harry Digby Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Blanche Digby Birth Place: Acton, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Acton Ecclesiastical parish: South Acton All Saints Town: Acton County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: 13 Somerset Road <<<<<<<<<<< Registration District: Brentford Sub-registration District: Acton ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: Piece: 1203 Folio: 48 Page Number: 18 Household Schedule Number: 114 Household Members: Name Age Harry Digby 30 - builders labourer Blanche Digby 28 Lizzie Digby 6 Florry Digby 4 Rose Digby 2 Frederick Ling 63
Harry Digby in the 1891 England Census Name: Harry Digby Gender: Male Age: 21 Relationship: Son Birth Year: 1870 Mother: Elizabeth Digby Birth Place: Acton, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Acton Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Residence Place: Acton, Acton, Middlesex, England Registration District: Brentford Sub registration district: Acton ED, Institution or Vessel: 6 Neighbors: Piece: 1036 Folio: 22 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Digby 62 Thos Digby 34 James Digby 24 Harry Digby 21 Alfred Digby 18
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ArgyllGran
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21 Apr 2021 13:26 |
Harry Digby in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Harry Digby Electoral Date: 1905 Street Address: 13, Somerset-road, Acton <<<<<<<<<< Ward or Division/Constituency: Ealing County or Borough: Ealing, England
Unfortunately, the ER only lists heads of households at that time, so I can't tell who else might have been living with him..
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ArgyllGran
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21 Apr 2021 13:20 |
Kim - I found Rose Elizabeth on the GRO website, by searching for Digby/Stratton births within a few years of Alfred's birth.
Maddie has added her baptism.
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Maddie
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21 Apr 2021 12:38 |
a sibling
Rose Elizabeth Last name Digby Birth quarter 3 Birth year 1901 Mother's maiden name Stratton District Brentford County Middlesex Country England Volume 3A
Name: Rose Elizabeth Digby Gender: Female Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 2 May 1902 Baptism Place: England, South Acton, Ealing Father: Thomas Digby Mother: Mary Digby Register Type: Parish Registers address 13 somerset road, father a carman Page 190
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Kim from Sandhurst
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20 Apr 2021 23:35 |
Grey
Just re read, 1911 James Digby, Harry Stratton was 24 not 44
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Kim from Sandhurst
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20 Apr 2021 23:30 |
Grey
That's all I have also, it's like Mary Stratton never existed let alone married Thomas Digby.
Argyll
Where have you found that, as I can't find that anywhere?
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ArgyllGran
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20 Apr 2021 21:24 |
A sister ???
DIGBY, ROSE ELIZABETH mmn STRATTON GRO Reference: 1901 S Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 190
Can't see her in 1911.
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greyghost
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20 Apr 2021 19:31 |
Yes K - as I said, hunting around. Nothing jumping out. there's always a chance on these records that something might show (parents etc) and of course, we don't know what records you already have.
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Kim from Sandhurst
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20 Apr 2021 19:24 |
Yes Grey
Berly died 3 years ago she was married to William Doye, my son's surrogate gandparents lol
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greyghost
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20 Apr 2021 19:19 |
The National Archives logo Alfred S Stratton's life in 1939 2 Century Road, Egham, Egham U.D., Surrey, England
Searle household (12 people) First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number John J Searle 15 Feb 1905 Male General Labourer Married 2 1 Florence E Searle 15 Sep 1908 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 2 2 The record for this person is officially closed. The record for this person is officially closed. Sidney W O'Neill 26 Sep 1914 Female General Labourer Single 2 5 Alfred S Stratton 16 Jul 1905 Male Light Lorry Driver Married 2 6 Dorothy V Stratton 19 Mar 1907 Female Household Duties Unpai Married 2 7 The record for this person is officially closed. Beryl Grace Doye (Stratton) 01 Jan 1930 Female At School Single 2 9 Albert Upton 04 May 1928 Male At School Single 2 10 The record for this person is officially closed. Charles (W N) Ricketts 01 Jul 1932 Male At School Single 2 12
Ref: RG101/1885C/002/14 Letter Code: DMGC © Findmypast Ltd
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greyghost
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20 Apr 2021 19:17 |
Just whilst it comes up as i'm searching
Alfred Sidney Stratton England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name: Alfred Sidney Stratton Event Type: Death Registration Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration Year: 1979 Registration District: Surrey Northern County: Surrey Event Place: Surrey Northern, Surrey, England Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969): 16 Jul 1905 Volume: 17 Affiliate Line Number: 87
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Kim from Sandhurst
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20 Apr 2021 19:16 |
Grey Yes, but can not find the connection between Digby & Stratton only that Harry was a boarder with the Digby's
Alfred was always insistent of his name Alfred Sidney Stratton, his daughter always knew he had been in a poor house when younger
Kim
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20 Apr 2021 19:06 |
the records you mention just for our info
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: DIGBY, ALFRED SIDNEY STRATTON GRO Reference: 1905 S Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 216
---------------- 1911 Census For England & Wales 11A Petersfield Road Acton, Acton, Middlesex, England . First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Digby Head Married Male 44 1867 Coal Porter Middlesex Acton Elizabeth Digby Wife Married Female 42 1869 Work At Home Middlesex Hampstead Heath Elizabeth Digby Daughter Single Female 17 1894 Ironer Middlesex Acton Alice Digby Daughter - Female 12 1899 - Middlesex Acton James Digby Son - Male 6 1905 - Middlesex Acton Joseph Digby Son - Male 4 1907 - Middlesex Acton Harry Stratton Boarder - Male 44 1867 Coal Porter Middlesex Acton
No clue as to marital status of Harry - 24 on original ----------------------- 1911 Census For England & Wales 2 Montague Avenue Hanwell W, Hanwell, Middlesex, England
First name(s) Alfred Sidney Last name Stratton Relationship - Sex Male Age 6 Birth year 1905 Birth place Middlesex Acton Occupation At School Institution name Scattered Homes House number 2 Street Montague Avenue Address 2 Montague Avenue Hanwell W Parish Hanwell County Middlesex Country England Registration district Brentford Registration district number 128 Sub-district Hanwell Sub-district number 3 Enumeration district number 4 Series RG14 Piece number 6857 Schedule 209 Census reference RG14PN6857 RG78PN342 RD128 SD3 ED4 SN209
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