Genealogy Chat

Thank you lancashireAnn that makes sense.
Argyllgran - that is the death entry I saw so I think I may send for the death cert. just to check.
Many thanks to all who responded.

Carole

I assume this is the death you found, Lynne?

LAMB, JOHN HULME 32
GRO Reference: 1916 S Quarter in STEYNING Volume 02B Page 301

Right name, and it certainly fits the DOD posted by Ann above.

If he died in a hospital, perhaps the informant didn't know his exact age.

As already said, he doesn't appear on the CWGC site because he wasn't a serving soldier at the time of death.

The pension record on FOLD3 states discharged 21/11/15 with tubercle lungs h........ & exhaustion agg. by active service. died 6/7/16

Wife's address 10 Bath Street Altrincham (separated) - not eligible for pension as John did not contribute towards her support prior to his enlistment. Annie b 15/8/1877

The children appear to be supported until the age of 16 - also says Peter died - dates of birth all given

Pension ceased for Peter when he died 30/12/17

Could be Erika. Thanks

I do have a John Lamb on my family gravestone who died in 1917 but it's not the one above.
My John was married to Jane.

This may be the one whose death has been posted above

23 Hampson Street Sale, Sale, Cheshire, England
John Lamb Husband Married Male 39 1872 Plumber Sale Cheshire
Elizabeth Lamb Wife Married Female 37 1874 - Sale Cheshire
Annie Lamb Daughter - Female 11 1900 - Sale Cheshire

Registration district is Bucklow

Looked for a death after 1915 but before 1918 in case he was discharged then died of injuries later.
There is one in 1916, wrong age and totally wrong area but you never know not many Lamb's with a middle name of Hulme.
Maybe he was in a hospital

Hi I'm back.
Thanks Shirley the John Lamb who died in 1917 is my gr gr Uncle so not the same one.
Thanks Argyllgran I was going to look for a re-marriage for Annie this afternoon, you've saved me a job !
I think I'll definitely contact CWGC and see if they can help.

Age is wrong but maybe

Deaths Sep 1917
Lamb John 46 Bucklow 8a 147

Well, he must have died between 1915 and 1918 - unless he and Annie divorced.

The middle initial is N, but very blurred on image:

Marriages Dec 1918 (>99%)
Lamb Annie H Craven Bucklow 8a 357

Marriages Dec 1918 (>99%)
CRAVEN John Lamb Bucklow 8a 857


Death:

CRAVEN, ANNIE NARCISSIA 62
GRO Reference: 1939 S Quarter in BARTON Volume 08C Page 689

The record posted by Maddie says he was discharged as unfit on 21/11/1915 - not that he died then.

If he didn't die in service, he won't be on the CWGC site - and he certainly doesn't seem to be.

My John's sister was Annie Astbury so that fits.
Unexpected visitor so will have to leave it for now but many thanks to both of you.

Sorry Maddie didn't see rest of your message

Thank you Shirley and Maddie.
Maddie - the service number matches the info. I had but John was not born in Ardwick
Shirley - birth place is correct but different service number so I'll check it out on CWGC

J H
Last name Lamb
Age 32
Birth year 1882
Birth town Ardwick
Birth county Lancashire
Birth country England
Service number 41057
Regiment Royal Engineers
Year 1914
Residence town London
Residence county Middlesex
Residence country England
Series WO 364
Series description Wo 364 - First World War Pension Claims
Archive The National Archives
Record set British Army Service Records

discharged as unfit on 21/11/1915 tubule of the lung

nok anni9e astbury sister peters street altringham

John Hulme
Last name Lamb
Age 21y
Marriage year 1900
Marriage date 01 Jan 1900
Marriage place Altrincham
Parish St. John
Spouse's first name(s) Annie Narcussia
Spouse's last name Payne
Spouse's age 23y
Bride's father's name Frederick Payne
City or town Altrincham
County Cheshire
Country England
Reference item 4 p 122

Have you found this

First name(s) John Hulme
Last name Lamb
Birth year 1879
Birth parish St Georges
Birth town Altringham
Birth county Cheshire
Birth country England
Service number 5889
Regiment King's Own (Royal Lancaster Regiment)
Year 1898
Attestation date 01 Jun 1898
Attestation age years 19
Attestation age months 8
Attestation service number 5889
Attestation corps King'S Own (Royal Lancaster Regiment)
Discharge corps King'S Own (Royal Lancaster Regiment)
Document type Attestation
Archive reference WO 96
Series Wo 96 - Militia Service Records 1806-1915
Box 66
Box record number 327
Archive The National Archives
Country England
Record set British Army Service Records
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
Collections from Great Britain, England

Sounds a good idea :-D

I did wonder but according to Ancestry the original image of the document may have more details
Thank you for checking Shirley, I may send an e-mail to CWGC.
Carole

Haven’t got access to fold 3 but it’s probably just the record the transcription has been made from

Thank you Shirley.
I think I have everything else for John but only found the WW1 entry this morning and still can't find it on CWGC

Sadly

Peter Lamb
Death Age: 13
Birth Date: abt 1904
Registration Date: Oct 1917
[Nov 1917]
[Dec 1917]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Bucklow
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 182