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I would be grateful is someone could help with the following.
Mary P. W. Cunliffe married Robert H. Rimmer 1907 in Worsley.
Unfortunately I can’t find her birth. I’ve also looked for the birth of her husband but there are lots of Robert H. Rimmer’s born about the time I think he would be born and I don’t know his mother’s maiden name. I can’t find deaths.
I’ve looked on Lancashire b.m.d, Free b.m.d, family search and looked at other people’s trees but nothing has come to light.
They had at least 5 children. Constance M 1909, Florence B 1910, Arthur 1912, Thomas A 1915 and Marjorie I 1919.
Constance M married James Pendlebury in Horwich 1934.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Pat.

Their fathers (if they knew them) will be named on the marriage cert, which is the obvious document to obtain.

1921 census shows Robert’s birth year to be 1881….second forename HENRY

She is recorded as MAY Phillipson Atherton Rimmer, born 1883

Now you have birth years, look again

Have you found them on the 1921 register and the 1939 index.?
The ‘21 would give you a place of birth and the ‘39 a date of birth.

HER birth is registered in JAS 1883………….find it on freebmd……or on the GRO site, which includes MMN

The marriage on freebmd CLEARLY shows her first name to be MAY, and includes her FULL second forename and third initial, which is A…..NOT W

She died in 1924…..easy to find on freebmd

In 1901, Robert is living with his parents, Alexander H and Mary Jane.

It should be simple enough to trace their marriage registration

Thank you for the help. I will look again.
I haven’t looked on the census or the 1939 register as yet.
Pat

Thank you for the help. I will look again.
I haven’t looked on the census or the 1939 register as yet.
Pat

Not sure where you got the info you posted but, the woman’s name was wrong :-S :-S

I found the marriage on Lancs b.m.d and it definitely says May P. W. Cunliffe. Sorry I originally said Mary.
Pat.

Look at LanOPC site……….

May Philippstone Atherton Cunliffe
Gender Female
Marriage Age 23
Event Type Marriage
Birth Year abt 1884
Marriage Date 3 Apr 1907
Marriage Place Worsley, St Mark, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears Worsley
Father
Thomas Cunliffe
Spouse
Robert Henry Rimmer
Reference Number L118/1/2/3
Archive Roll 582



Name Mary Asheton Philipson Cunliffe
Baptism Date 20 Sep 1883
Baptism Place Worsley, St Mark, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears Worsley
Father
Thomas Cunliffe
Mother
Mary Cunliffe
Reference Number M118/1/1/1
Item Number 3
Archive Roll 581


May Phillipson A Cunliffe
Registration Date 1883 [1883]
Quarter of the Year Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Place Barton, Lancashire, England
Volume 8c
Page 597



Name Robert Henry Rimmer
Registration Date 1881 [1881]
Quarter of the Year Apr-May-Jun
Registration Place Manchester, Lancashire, England
Volume 8d
Page 320

Name Robert Henry Rimmer
Death Date 29 May 1947
Death Place Lancashire, England
Probate Date 5 Mar 1948
Probate Registry Lancaster, England

parents

Name Alexander Henry Rimmer
Registration Year 1881 [1881]
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district Manchester
Inferred County Lancashire
Volume 8d
Page 298
Records on Page (Name)
Thomas Cragg
Hannah Gill
Mary Jane Litterick ----------
Alexander Henry Rimmer

1881shows where the name Atherton came from


Name Sarah Annie Cunliffe --- sister
Age 1
Estimated Birth Year abt 1880
Relationship to Head Granddaughter
Father Thos. Cunliffe
Mother Mary Cunliffe
Gender Female
Where born Worsley, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Worsley
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Street Address 357 Wardley Lane
Registration district Barton Upon Irwell
ED, institution, or vessel 5
Neighbors
Piece 3876
Folio 5
Page number 4
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Richd. Atherton

61

Head
Mary Atherton

64

Wife
Thos. Cunliffe

28

Son in Law (Son-in-law)
Mary Cunliffe

33

Daughter
Mary Elizth. Cunliffe

7

Granddaughter
Alice Cunliffe

5

Granddaughter
Jos.Richd. Cunliffe

3

Grandson
Sarah Annie Cunliffe 1 Granddaughter
Cathren Maud Cunliffe

Granddaughter

Marriage: 19 Jul 1873 St Paul, Walkden, Lancashire
Thomas Cunliffe - 20, Miner, Bachelor, Walkden
Mary Atherton - 25, Spinster, Walkden
Groom's Father: Joseph Cunliffe, Engineer
Bride's Father: Richard Atherton, Engineer
Witnesses: James Cunliffe; Alice Cunliffe
Married by Banns
Register: Marriages 1863 - 1889, Page 87, Entry 174
Source: Private Transcription

That’s brilliant Maddie.
Many thanks. It’s appreciated.
Pat.

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Baptism: 19 Jul 1853 St Aidan, Billinge, Lancashire
Thomas Cunliffe - Son of Joseph Cunliffe & Elizabeth
Born: 16 Jul
Abode: Ashton
Occupation: Engineer
Baptised By: John Stone Offg. Minister
Register: Baptisms 1840 - 1870, Page 119, Entry 947
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Roll Member: 29 Mar 1876 Oldham Rd Congregational, Miles Platting, Lancashire
Miss Mary Jane Littrick -
Abode: Rochdale Road
Occupation: Milliner
Married Name: Mrs. Alex. Rimmer
Notes: Admitted by vote of the Church
Register: Roll of Church Members 1852 - 1888, Page 36
Source: LDS Film 2355751

Roll Member: 1 May 1878 Oldham Rd Congregational, Miles Platting, Lancashire
Alexander Henry Rimmer -
Abode: 345 Collyhurst Road
Occupation: Plumber
Notes: Admitted by vote of the Church
Register: Roll of Church Members 1852 - 1888, Page 38
Source: LDS Film 2355751

Many thanks again Maddie.
You’ve kindly given me so much information it will take me days to go through it and process.
Pat.

Make a note of the LanOPC site and use it - it’s FREE, And invaluable.

https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/