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Amanda Thanks for trying Joanna

Hi Joanna
I have Frederick as my ancestors[Mary] brother. Do you have any more on the Machells.

Val

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Ozi.

Hi I know this thread is old but hope it still reaches somebody out there! My great grandmother was Eliza Machell Blogg, born to Mary (nee Machell) who I'm guessing was Frederick Machell's sister, as I've found that both Mary and Frederick baptised their kids together, Eliza and Frederick's Elizabeth, in Middlesex 1864. Does anyone have any more information on that family please? We were told that our Machells were connected with the Machells of Penny Bridge (Lake District) but we don't know how. Please feel free to contact me.
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Pippa

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Name: Eliza Machell Blogg
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 2 Oct 1864
Baptism Place: England, Walham Green, Hammersmith and Fulham
Father: John Blogg
Mother: Mary Blogg

Name: Mary Ann Machell Blogg
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 1 Mar 1863
Baptism Place: England, Walham Green, Hammersmith and Fulham
Father: John Blogg
Mother: Mary Blogg

Marriages Jun 1857 (>99%)
Blogg John Kensington 1a 55
Machell Mary Kensington 1a 55


1871
Bull Lane, Ealing, Brentford, Middlesex, England
John Blogg Head - Male 52 1819 - Norfolk, England
Mary Blogg Wife - Female 48 1823 - Middlesex, England
Mary Blogg Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Middlesex, England
Eliza Blogg Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Middlesex, England


1861
5, Cedar Terrace, Fulham, Kensington, London & Middlesex, England
John Blogg Head Married Male 42 1819 Blacksmith Reepham, Norfolk, England
Mary Blogg Wife Married Female 38 1823 - Hampton, Middlesex, England
Albert Blogg Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Notting Hill, Middlesex, England
William Blogg Son - Male 2 1859 - Sydenham, Kent, England

1871 for ALBERT

Name: Albert Blogg
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: 1854
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Fulham Middlesex England
Civil parish: Beddington
Ecclesiastical parish: Winchester
Town: Beddington
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Mitcham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 265
Piece: 852
Folio: 33
Page number: 60
Household Members Age Relationship
George Hoof 35 Head
Eliza Hoof 40 Wife
Albert Blogg 17 Nephew
John Evans 37 Lodger


Marriages Sep 1860 (>99%)
Hoof George Croydon 2a 219
MACHELL Eliza Croydon 2a 219

To try and find any link to the Penny Bridge Machells you need to work your London family back. Also look at wills of the Penny Bridge family to see if you can find family members in London.

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Name: Eliza Machale
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Compton, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: St Peter Pauls Wharf
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration District: London City
Sub-registration District: London City South West

pennybridge ones for starters

Name: John Dallas Ulf Machell
Death Date: 23 Oct 1986
Published Date: 25 Oct 1986
Father's Name: John U Machell
Mother's Name: Lorna Machell


John Ulf Machell
1901–1985
Birth 7 AUG 1901 • Pennybridge, Lancashire, England
Death 26 AUG 1985 •Ulverston
married

Lorna Kathleen Porter
1903–1998
Birth 7 JAN 1903 • Helmsley, Yorkshire North Riding
Death MAY 1998 • Ulverston, Lancashire, England


Edward John Machell
1839–1920
Birth 6 SEP 1839 • Cartmel, Lancashire, England
Death 12 MAR 1920 • Ulverstone, Cumbria, England

married
Constance May
1861–1926
Birth 1861 • Burslem, Staffordshire, England

British India Office Births & Baptisms
Edward John
Last name Machell
Birth year 1839
Birth date 06 Sep 1839
Baptism year 1858
Baptism date 26 Nov 1839
Age -
Birth town Cartmel
Birth county Lancashire
Birth country England
Death year -

Edward John
Last name Machell
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1839
Baptism date 26 Nov 1839
Residence Cartmel, Lancashire, England
Place Cartmel
County Lancashire
Country England
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Machell
Mother's first name(s) Rosetta Hester

Name: John Machell
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: 1802
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Colton Lancashire England
Civil parish: Egton with Newland
Ecclesiastical parish: Ulverston St Mary
Town: Penny Bridge
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Ulverston
Sub-registration district: Colton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 14
Piece: 4239
Folio: 120
Page number: 3
Household Members Age Relationship
John Machell 69 Head
Madeline Machell
32 Daughter


Name: Justina Madelina Machell
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: 1839
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Penny Machell
Mother's Name: Eliza Machell
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Egton with Newland
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration District: Ulverston
Sub-registration District: Colton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 92
Piece: 3166
Folio: 120
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
John Penny Machell 59
Eliza Machell 53
Justina Madelina Machell 22

1851
Name: John Machell
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Machell
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square
Ecclesiastical parish: Hanover Square
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration District: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration District: Hanover Square
ED, institution, or vessel: 02
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 34
Piece: 1475
Folio: 31
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
John Machell 49
Eliza Machell 39
Madeline Machell 12
Sarah Kitchen 24


Marriage: 14 Nov 1837 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
John Penny Machell, Esquire - Full Age, Bachelor, Penny Brige
Eliza Dallas - Full Age, Spinster, Quernmore Park
Groom's Father: James Penny Machell, Esquire
Bride's Father: Robert Dallas, Knight, Late Lord Chief Justicer of the Common Pleas
Witness: Justine Dallas; J P Marshall
Married by Licence by: John Manby, Vicar
Register: Marriages 1837 - 1841, Page 17, Entry 34
Source: LDS Film 1526201

Baptism: 20 Oct 1838 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Justina Madaline Machell - Daughter of John Penny Machell, Esquire & Eliza
Born: 17 Oct 1838
Abode: Quernmore Park
Baptised by: J N Green Armytage, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1837 - 1845, Page 49, Entry 391
Source: LDS Film 1526200

Justina was an only child, and died unmarried - so no link through her
Address at death in 1900 was The Hall, Penny Bridge
Estate valued at £154992 2s.3d - (a cool £18million+ today)

John Ulf Machell (info posted by Maddie) was living at the Hall at the time of his death, as was his son, John Dallas Ulf Machell

Interesting that the name 'Dallas' crops up.

Eliza's father

Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900/Dallas, Robert (1756-1824)

extract................
. On the first day of Michaelmas term 1818, Dallas took his seat as chief justice of the common pleas in the place of Sir Vicary Gibbs, who had resigned on account of ill-health; and on 19 Nov. in the same year was, together with Lord-chief-justice Abbott, sworn a member of the privy council. In April 1820, Dallas sat on the special commission for the trial of the Cato Street conspirators, and presided at the trial of James Ings (ib. xxxiii. 957–1176).


Justine, who witnessed Eliza's marriage, was his second wife

Marriage: 27 May 1800 St John, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
James Penny Machell - Penny Bridge in Ulverston in County of Lancaster
Ann Penny - Spinster, Liverpool
Witness: Isabel Machell; Jas.? Penny
Married by Licence by: Richard Loxham
Register: Marriages 1785 - 1805, Page 133, Entry 661
Source: LDS Film 1656197

Baptism: 20 Sep 1801 Holy Trinity, Colton, Lancashire, England
John Penny Machell - [Child] of James Penny Machell
Abode: Hollow Oak
Register: Baptisms 1779 - 1811 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 27, Entry 7
Source: LDS Film 1040301

Baptism: 13 Feb 1803 Holy Trinity, Colton, Lancashire, England
James Machell - [Child] of James Penny Machell, Esq.
Abode: Hollow Oak
Register: Baptisms 1779 - 1811 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 28, Entry 28
Source: LDS Film 1040301

Baptism: 2 Nov 1804 Holy Trinity, Colton, Lancashire, England
Ann Machell - [Child] of Jas. Penny Machell
Abode: Hollow Oak
Register: Baptisms 1779 - 1811 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 30, Entry 11
Source: LDS Film 1040301
Burial: 11 Nov 1804 St Mary the Virgin, Egton cum Newland, Lancashire, England
Ann Machell - dau of James Machell, Esqr.
Age: Infant
Abode: Hollow Oak?
Register: Burials 1792 - 1811 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 11, Entry 6
Source: LDS Film 1040491

Baptism: 19 Nov 1823 Priory Church of St Mary and St Michael, Cartmel, Lancashire, England
Rosetta Margt. Machell - Daughter of James Machell, Gentleman & Rosetta Hester
Abode: Newby Bridge
Baptised by: Martin Lamb
Register: Baptisms 1810 - 1826 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Entry 118
Source: LDS Film 1040490

Baptism: 6 Sep 1825 Priory Church of St Mary and St Michael, Cartmel, Lancashire, England
Thos. Michaelson Machell - Son of James Machell, Esquire & Rosetta Hester
Abode: Newby Bridge
Baptised by: M. W. Lamb
Source: LDS Film 1040490

BLOGG, JOHN MACHELL MACHELL
GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 51

Death
BLOGG, JOHN MACHELL Age 1
GRO Reference: 1858 S Quarter in LEWISHAM UNION Volume 01D Page 462

BLOGG, WILLIAM MACHELL MACHELL
GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in LEWISHAM UNION Volume 01D Page 713