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Banns: St George, Derby Square, Liverpool, Lancashire
Henry Hughes - Labourer, Villars St
Elizabeth Gill - Spinster, Bold St
First Reading: 25 Sep 1831; Read By: Rev J B Monk
Second Reading: 2 Oct 1831; Read By: Rev J G Leigh
Third Reading: 9 Oct 1831; Read By: Rev J B Monk
Notes: Married 16 Oct 1831, Groom resident for 15 mths, Bride resident for 9mths
Register: Banns of Marriage 1825 - 1876, Page 20, Entry 58
Source: LDS Film 1656195

Marriage: 16 Oct 1831 St George, Derby Square, Liverpool, Lancashire
Henry Hughes - Labourer, Liverpool
Elizabeth Gill - Spinster, Liverpool
Witnesses: Elizabeth Kneil (X); James Ireland (X)
Married by Banns by John Boughey
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1837, Page 44, Entry 130
Source: LDS Film 1656195

IF Joseph Inkerman Hughes is the same person as your Joseph, he must have both married and been widowed between 1871 and 1879, not to mention meeting and wooing Annie.

Annie seems to be a bit of a mystery, too.

According to her marriage cert in 1879, her father was Henry Smith, a tailor.

This would appear to be her in 1871. (In 1861 they're in Belper.)

Ann Smith
in the 1871 England Census
Name Ann Smith
Age 14
Estimated Birth Year 1857
Relation Daughter
Gender Female
Where born Belper, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish Tutbury
County/Island Staffordshire
Country England
Registration district Burton Upon Trent
Sub-registration district Tutbury
ED, institution, or vessel 11
Household schedule number 183
Piece 2897
Folio 66
Page number 36
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Henry Smith 46 Head - Tailor <<<<<<<<<<<
Ann Smith 43 Wife [ nee Bennett ]
James Smith 17 Son
Ann Smith 14 Daughter
Hannah Smith 11 Daughter
Daniel Smith 9 Son
Elizabeth Smith 7 Daughter
Millicent Smith 3 Daughter
William Connor 25 Visitor
Harriet Connor 19 Visitor
Thomas Connor 2/12 Son


But that can't be her. This would be that Ann's marriage - and she's about 3 years older than your Annie in any case:

Ann Smith
in the Staffordshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1900
Name Ann Smith
Marriage Age 20
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1856
Residence Place Tutbury
Marriage Date 19 Aug 1876
Marriage Place Tutbury, St Mary, Staffordshire, England
Father Henry Smith
Spouse Alfred Yeomans
Religion Anglican

She's with Alfred and children in 1881 and 1891, in Newton, Lancs. - so can't simultaneously be Joseph's wife.

Many thanks greyghost thats really great research! Back to 1841 for the 1st time in terms of location and you have identified Elizabeth's maiden name as Gill which we did not know! Also the fact that Elizabeth came from Croglin in Cumberland! I now have conflicting information though on whether Henry came from Barton or Burton in Cheshire? But sounds like the early 19th century story of farm workers migrating from the countryside into a booming Victorian Liverpool for work! Thx Graham :-)

Hi ArgyllGran. Hmm I was of the view that Annie Smith was from Belper but as you say this Ann Smith seems about 3 years older and if she indeed married an Alfred Yeomans then it cant be her! Thx Graham :)

Graham

No proof yet that Henry is the father of the Joseph in question................look at the marriage record I posted on page one

Graham -

Annie Hughes (nee Smiith) was definitely born in or near Belper.

The 1881 census says she was born in Cromford, Derbyshire. (Approx 8 miles from Belper)
1891 says she was born in Belper.

Annie & Joseph's marriage record says Joseph's father was Peter.
There is no documentary suggestion that Joseph's father was Henry.

Has someone confused Annie’s father’s forename with that of Joseph’s father?

Perhaps a double-check of previous research would prove useful ;-) ;-) ;-)

I had wondered that too, ErikaH.

However, I can't find an Ann* Smith with father Peter in 1861, nor one whose father Peter had died before the census.

I meant 'someone' doing research....not the registrar, or vicar ;-) ;-)

Sorry, should have been more specific :-S :-S