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My Mother sadly passed away. She was the best mother I could ever of wished for.
she never new her father or any of his family or her mother's family. Mum was evacuated from Rye with her mother when WW2 broke out, She never new why her father did not go with them. She told me that in those day's you never asked your elder's thing's , Her mother told her nothing.
I would really love to find my mother's family and mine to know where she came from and to know mum had family out there some where. Love you mum miss you every hour of every day. xxxx
please can you help me find her long loss family. Mum's name was Margaret Ann Frampton. Her father's name was Ernest John Frampton born 1912 and her mother's name was Elise Ellen Pope born 1911 From Rye, around the Romney marsh area Kent.
Thank you
Deborah

England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription

First name(s) ERNEST J
Last name FRAMPTON
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1932
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ ERNEST J FRAMPTON married
Elsie E Pope
Spouse's last name Pope
District Romney Marsh
District number -
County Kent
Country England

Ernest J Frampton on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Frampton Household (3 People) Scotney Court , Lydd M.B., Kent, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Ernest J Frampton 14 Jul 1912 Male Farm Labourer Heavy Worker Married 61 3
Ernest W J Frampton 10 Aug 1878 Male Shepherd Heavy Worker Married 61 1
Jane Frampton 10 Jan 1872 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 61 2

Ref: RG101/1743J/006/44 Letter Code: DHZE© Findmypast Ltd
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1939 Register showing Elsie and her daughter Margaret. Can I just check - you have put Elise in your opening post and the 2 records I have posted so far show her as Elsie.

Mauzies Household (7 People)
4 Clyde Villas , Rye M.B., Sussex, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Elsie E Frampton 23 Apr 1912 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 120 6
Rose E Mauzies 17 Oct 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 120 1
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Albert J D?gate 05 Jul 1863 Male Farm Labourer Married 120 4
Mary A Dungate 30 Jun 1855 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 120 5
Margaret A Oxanham (Frampton) 30 May 1939 Female Under School Age Single 120 7

Did Ernest stay behind to work on the farm with his elderly Father and Mother?

Frampton Household (3 People)
Scotney Court , Lydd M.B., Kent, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Ernest J Frampton 14 Jul 1912 Male Farm Labourer Heavy Worker Married 61 3
Ernest W J Frampton 10 Aug 1878 Male Shepherd Heavy Worker Married 61 1
Jane Frampton 10 Jan 1872 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 61 2

Elsie E Frampton on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Mauzies Household (7 People) 4 Clyde Villas , Rye M.B., Sussex, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Elsie E Frampton 23 Apr 1912 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 120 6
Rose E Mauzies 17 Oct 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 120 1
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Albert J D?gate 05 Jul 1863 Male Farm Labourer Married 120 4
Mary A Dungate 30 Jun 1855 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 120 5
Margaret A Oxanham (Frampton) 30 May 1939 Female Under School Age Single 120 7

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Scotney Court Lydd, Lydd, Kent, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Ernest William Frampton Head Married Male Shepherd 34 1877 Stone Kent
Jane Frampton Wife Married Female - 38 1873 Stone Kent
Edward Frampton Son - Male School 12 1899 Stone Kent
Ivy Frampton Daughter - Female - 9 1902 Lydd Kent
Alice Frampton Daughter - Female - 4 1907 Lydd Kent
Charles Daw Boarder Single Male Farm Labourer 18 1893 Stone Kent

Ernest and Jane married 14 years. 3 children born to marriage and still living

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
FRAMPTON, ERNEST JOHN DAW Order
GRO Reference: 1912 S Quarter in ROMNEY MARSH Volume 02A Page 2212

FRAMPTON, ALICE JANE DAW Order
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in ROMNEY MARSH Volume 02A Page 1143

FRAMPTON, EDWARD WILLIAM DAW Order
GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in TENTERDEN UNION Volume 02A Page 795

FRAMPTON, IRY KATE DAW Order
GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in ROMNEY MARSH Volume 02A Page 1109

No further children showing after Ernest 1912

Was her name Elsie rather than Elise?


Births Jun 1911 (>99%)

Pope Elsie E Rye 2b 3

POPE, ELSIE ELLEN BRYANT Order
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in RYE Volume 02B Page 3

England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription

First name(s) ERNEST WILLIAM J
Last name FRAMPTON
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1897
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ ERNEST WILLIAM J FRAMPTON married
Jane Daw
District Tenterden
District number -
County Kent
Country England
Volume 2A
Volume as transcribed 2A
Page number 1553

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
2, West End, Appledore, Tenterden, Kent, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William J Frampton Head Married Male 27 1854 Bricklayer Stone, Kent, England
Mary A F Frampton Wife Married Female 25 1856 - Beckley, Sussex, England
Ernest W J Frampton Son Single Male 2 1879 - Appledore, Kent, England
Winifred H Frampton Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Appledore, Kent, England
Walter E Else Nurse Child Single Male 2 1879 - London, Middlesex, England

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Marriages Mar 1911 (>99%)
Bryant Rose E Rye 2b 9
Devonshire Alice M Rye 2b 9
Fuller Eric G S H Rye 2b 9
Pope George Rye 2b 9

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
House Near Ferry, Ferry Road, Stone, Tenterden, Kent, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William J Frampton Head Married Male 36 1855 Builder Kent, England
Mary A F Frampton Wife Married Female 34 1857 - Sussex, England
Ernest W J Frampton Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Kent, England
Winifred D K Frampton Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Kent, England
John A O Frampton Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Kent, England
Lucy Oliver Sister - Female 19 1872 Servant Domestic Kent, England

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Scotney Court, Lydd, Romney Marsh, Kent, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ernest Frampton Head Married Male 22 1879 Shepherd Appledore, Kent, England
Elizabeth Frampton Wife Married Female 29 1872 - Stone, Kent, England
Charles Daw Frampton Son - Male 8 1893 - Stone, Kent, England
Edward Frampton Son - Male 2 1899 - Stone, Kent, England
Benjamin Frank Coy Boarder Widower Male 60 1841 Stock Man On Farm Suffolk, England

Original does say Elizabeth. Not seeing a marriage to fit. Is Elizabeth the same person as Jane. Both same age, from same place. Edward is son, but mmn shows as Daw

Possibly Charles Daw Frampton on the 1901 census

DAW, CHARLES WALTER - Order
GRO Reference: 1892 D Quarter in TENTERDEN UNION Volume 02A Page 733

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) ERNEST JOHN
Last name FRAMPTON
Gender Male
Birth day 14
Birth month 7
Birth year 1912
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1969
District Folkestone
County Kent
Volume 5F
Page 1356
Country


https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=frampton&yearOfDeath=1970&page=1#calendar

Administration - Ernest John Frampton of Poplar House, Lydd Kent died 21 November 1969. Administration Brighton 13 January 1970 £9448

Name: Age at Death (in years):
FRAMPTON, MARY ANN FAITHFULL 40 Order
GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in TENTERDEN UNION Volume 02A Page 481

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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1899 (>99%)
EATWELL Emma Mary Tenterden 2a 1653
Frampton William John Tenterden 2a 1653

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Lower Road, Stone cum Ebony, Tenterden, Kent, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William J Frampton Head Married Male 47 1854 Bricklayer Stone, Kent, England
Emma M Frampton Wife Married Female 36 1865 - London, Middlesex, England
John A O Frampton Son Single Male 20 1881 Agricultural Labourer Appledore, Kent, England
Jessie F Frampton Daughter Single Female 0 1901 - Stone, Kent, England

Name: Age at Death (in years): Order:
FRAMPTON, EMMA MARY 41 Order
GRO Reference: 1908 J Quarter in TENTERDEN Volume 02A Page 484 Order

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Stone Ashford Kent, Stone cum Ebony, Kent, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
William John Frampton Head Widower Male Bricklayer 55 1856 Stone in Oxney
Jessie Failkful Frampton Daughter - Female School 10 1901 Stone in Oxney
Mary Winifred Frampton Daughter - Female School 6 1905 Stone in Oxney
Frances Alice Reeves Housekeeper Single Female - 38 1873 North Camp Aldershot
Reginald George Bourne Lodger Single Male Mate With Horse On Farm 15 1896 Woodchurch

On the original by Jessie's name it shows 2 children born and 2 living (obviously wrongly entered) - so I think that Jessie and Mary will be 2 children of the marriage of William John and Emma

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:

FRAMPTON, JESSIE FAITHFUL EATWELL Order
GRO Reference: 1900 S Quarter in TENTERDEN UNION Volume 02A Page 851

FRAMPTON, MARY WINIFRED EATWELL Order
GRO Reference: 1904 J Quarter in TENTERDEN UNION Volume 02A Page 900 Order