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8 Nov 2020 14:25 |
James Robinson born about 1831 in Lancashire and Jane Duckworth born about 1834 also in Lancashire married at Newchurch Lancashire in 1854. I think they had at least 2 children John Robert Robinson born 1854 and Abraham born 1855 and died same year. The children were born in Newchurch. I have a feeling that there are more children but I can’t find them and I would be grateful if someone could look at the 1861 and the 1871 census. Many thanks.
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8 Nov 2020 14:45 |
Have you looked on the gro site for children born with mmn duckworth
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8 Nov 2020 14:52 |
John Robert Robinson Age: 4/12 Birth Date: abt 1854 Burial Date: 1 Nov 1854 Burial Place: Newchurch in Rossendale, St Nicholas, Lancashire, England Parish as it Appears: Newchurch Search Photos: Search for 'Newchurch in Rossendale, St Nicholas' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: James Robinson Mother: Jane Robinson Reference Number: GB127.L75/1/5/4
View Manchester, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915 Name: John Robert Robinson Baptism Date: 20 Aug 1854 Baptism Place: Rochdale, St Chad, Lancashire, England Parish as it Appears: Rochdale Search Photos: Search for 'Rochdale, St Chad' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: James Robinson Mother: Jane Robinson Reference Number: L48/1/3/10 Item Number: 4 Archive Roll: 645
The two births
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: ROBINSON, ABRAHAM DUCKWORTH GRO Reference: 1855 D Quarter in HASLINGDEN Volume 08E Page 76 ROBINSON, JOHN ROBERT DUCKWORTH GRO Reference: 1854 S Quarter in HASLINGDEN Volume 08E Page 85
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8 Nov 2020 14:52 |
I’ve looked on the Lancashirebmd where I found John Robert and Abraham but couldn’t find any more. Lots of Robinson/Duckworth children but from all over Lancashire so I couldn’t decide if they belonged to James and Jane. I know they could have moved in to another area. Also looked on the freebmd and couldn’t even find John Robert or Abraham on that site.
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8 Nov 2020 14:57 |
Abraham Robinson Age: 0 Birth Date: abt 1855 Burial Date: 3 Nov 1855 Burial Place: Newchurch in Rossendale, St Nicholas, Lancashire, England Parish as it Appears: Newchurch Search Photos: Search for 'Newchurch in Rossendale, St Nicholas' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: James Robinson Mother: Jane Robinson Reference Number: GB127.L75/1/5/4
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8 Nov 2020 14:58 |
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
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8 Nov 2020 14:59 |
No more children by 1861
James Robinson Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: 1831 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Robinson Gender: Male Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Wardleworth Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Rochdale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration District: Rochdale Sub-registration District: Wardleworth ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 222 Piece: 3044 Folio: 102 Page Number: 43 Household Members: Name Age James Robinson 30 Jane Robinson 30
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8 Nov 2020 15:00 |
Possibly two more children
He was a widower by 1881
James Robinson Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relationship to Head: Head Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Wardleworth County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 1 Cottage Yard Lomax St Marital status: Widower Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Unemployed Registration District: Rochdale ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4116 Folio: 23 Page Number: 39 Household Members: Name Age James Robinson 49 Mary Robinson 14 Richard Robinson 12 Save Cancel Source Citation Class: RG11; Piece: 4116; Folio: 23; Page: 39; GSU roll: 1341985 Source Information
ROBINSON, RICHARD DUCKWORTH GRO Reference: 1868 D Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 65
ROBINSON, MARY JANE DUCKWORTH GRO Reference: 1866 S Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 53
Edit could be a different family
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8 Nov 2020 15:29 |
Burial: 1 Nov 1854 St Nicholas, Newchurch in Rossendale, Lancashire, England John Robert Robinson - Son of James Robinson & Jane Age: 4 months Abode: Bridleway Buried by: J. B. Phillips Incumbent Register: Burials 1848 - 1860, Page 125, Entry 1000 Source: Original Parish Register
Burial: 3 Nov 1855 St Nicholas, Newchurch in Rossendale, Lancashire, England Abraham Robinson - Son of James Robinson & Jane Age: 2 weeks Abode: Bridleway Buried by: J. B. Phillips Incumbent Register: Burials 1848 - 1860, Page 145, Entry 1157 Source: Original Parish Register
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8 Nov 2020 15:33 |
Baptism: 28 Mar 1869 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England Richard Robinson - Son of James Robinson & Jane Born: 12 Nov 1868 Abode: Lomax Street Occupation: Dyer Notes: Easter Day Baptised by: Alfred Salts, Curate Register: Baptisms 1865 - 1871, Page 18, Entry 141 Source: LDS film 2356446 [Item2]
Baptism: 19 Aug 1866 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England Mary Jane Robinson - Daughter of James Robinson & Jane Born: 9 Jun 1866 Abode: Lomax Street Occupation: Dyer Baptised by: J. F. Jenkin, Curate Register: Baptisms 1865 - 1871, Page 45, Entry 353 Source: LDS film 2356446 [Item2]
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8 Nov 2020 15:34 |
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1878 Surname Forename(s) Age or Date of Birth Year Sub-District Registers At Reference ROBINSON Jane 47 1878 Wardleworth Rochdale W/35/86
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8 Nov 2020 15:36 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Lomax Street, Wardleworth, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
John Robinson Head - Male 39 1832 - DYER- Lancashire, England Jane Robinson Wife - Female 39 1832 - Yorkshire, England Mary Jane Robinson Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Lancashire, England Richard Robinson Son - Male 2 1869 - Lancashire, England
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8 Nov 2020 15:51 |
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Reference ROBINSON Richard GREENFIELD Eliza Ann 1892 Rochdale Register Office or Registrar Attended Rochdale RM/91/63
Name: Richard Robinson Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Eliza Am Robinson.................................born Dudley Birth Place: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Rochdale Ecclesiastical parish: St Chad County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration District: Rochdale Sub-registration District: Castleton Nearer ED, institution, or vessel: 08 Piece: 3834 Folio: 139 Page Number: 3 Household Schedule Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Richard Robinson 32 Eliza Am Robinson 28 Arthur Robinson 7 Harry Robinson 5 Albert Robinson 3 Frank Robinson 8/12
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8 Nov 2020 15:55 |
1939 (Note DoB)
Name: Richard Robinson Gender: Male Marital status: Married Birth Date: 12 Nov 1868 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 13 Bonser Road Residence Place: Twickenham, Middlesex, England Occupation: Engineer Machine Shop Fore?? Line Number: 10 Schedule Number: 108 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: BUDS Borough: Twickenham Registration District: 128/2 Household Members: Name Richard Robinson Eliza A Robinson Marital status: Married Birth Date: 15 May 1872 Nora Robinson Marital status: Single Birth Date: 17 Feb 1906 Edith Robinson Marital status: Single Birth Date: 11 Apr 1908
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8 Nov 2020 16:09 |
Many thanks to you all for your help. It’s greatly appreciated. It will take time to read and digest.
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8 Nov 2020 16:22 |
Marriage: 23 Oct 1890 St Clement, Spotland, Lancashire, England Robert Phythian - 24, Tinplate Worker, Bachelor, Bridge St. Mary Jane Robinson - 23, Spinster, Lomax St. Groom's Father: Richard Phythian, Carter Bride's Father: James Robinson, Dyer Witness: John Eastwood; Sarah Ann Stott Married by Licence by: Kenyon R. Hoyle Register: Marriages 1873 - 1892, Page 228, Entry 456 Source: LDS Family Search
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census New Barn Lane, Castleton, Rochdale, Lancashire, England Robert Phythian Head Married Male 26 1865 Tin Plate Worker Stockport, Cheshire, England Mary J Phythian Wife Married Female 25 1866 - Rochdale, Lancashire, England Richard Phythian Son - Male 2 1889 - Rochdale, Lancashire, England
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 33, Bedford Street, Rochdale, Lancashire, England Robert Phythian Head Married Male 35 1866 Tin Plate Worker Rochdale, Lancashire, England Mary J Phythian Wife Married Female 34 1867 - Rochdale, Lancashire, England Richard Phythian Son - Male 12 1889 Piecer Rochdale, Lancashire, England Harry Phythian Son - Male 9 1892 - Rochdale, Lancashire, England Percy Phythian Son - Male 5 1896 - Rochdale, Lancashire, England
1911 Census For England & Wales 18 Durham Street Rochdale, Rochdale, Lancashire, England Robert Phythian Head Married Male 46 1865 Foreman Street Metal Worker Stockport Mary Jane Phythian Wife Married Female 46 1865 - Rochdale Harry Phythian Son Single Male 20 1891 Joiner Rochdale Percy Phythian Son Single Male 16 1895 Provision Warehouse Rochdale
FOUR children born in marriage - ONE has died
1939 1 Ventnor Avenue, Whiteway, Bristol C.B., Gloucestershire, England Percy Phythian 20 Jul 1895 Male Foreman Aircraft Inspector Married 196 1 Ivy Phythian 13 Dec 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 196 2 Renee M Miles (Phythian) 12 Aug 1920 Female Chocolate Packer Single 196 3 The record for this person is officially closed Mary J Phythian 09 Jun 1866 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 196 5
DEATH
First name(s) MARY J Last name PHYTHIAN Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1867 Age 73 Death quarter 1 Death year 1940 District Bristol
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8 Nov 2020 16:28 |
PHYTHIAN, HARRY ROBINSON GRO Reference: 1891 J Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 22 PHYTHIAN, RICHARD ROBINSON GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 56 PHYTHIAN, ARTHUR ROBINSON GRO Reference: 1894 M Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 9 PHYTHIAN, PERCY ROBINSON GRO Reference: 1895 S Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 15
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8 Nov 2020 16:46 |
I wondered if I could ask one last favour please. James was born in 1831c in Wardlesworth, Rochdale and married Jane Duckworth at St Nicholas Church, Newchurch, in 1854. Is it possible to look up their wedding details so I would know who their fathers were? I have sent an email to the church concerned but not sure if they will be able to help due to the Covid crisis or even if that’s the best way to go about getting the information. Many thanks
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8 Nov 2020 16:57 |
Marriage: 14 Mar 1854 St Nicholas, Newchurch in Rossendale, Lancashire, England James Robinson - (X), of full age, Labourer, Widower, Newchurch Jane Duckworth - (X), of full age, Throstle Spinner, Spinster, Newchurch Groom's Father: James Robinson, Labourer Bride's Father: John Duckworth, Sawyer Witness: Edward Lord, (X); Elizabeth Welsh, (X) Married by Banns by: J. B. Phillips, M. A. Register: Marriages 1853 - 1864, Page 21, Entry 41 Source: Original Parish Register
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8 Nov 2020 17:13 |
That brilliant. Thank you.
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