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wiliam henry mcdowell b 1847 stoke damerel devon m editha rundle 1869 did he marry again after she died in 1881 and have more children as i would like to know when were he died

Start by looking for info on freebmd, which is what we would do

There are a number of previous threads about this family………..

He has his youngest son with him in 1891

W H McDowell
Gender: Male
Age: 43
Relationship: Boarder
Birth Year: 1848
Birth Place: Devonport, Alderney, Channel Islands
Civil Parish: East Stonehouse
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Residence Place: East Stonehouse, East Stonehouse, Devon, England
Registration District: East Stonehouse
Sub registration district: East Stonehouse
ED, Institution or Vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1739
Folio: 79
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hore 67
Fanny Hore 67
John Hore 19
George Wetter 30
W H McDowell 43
Edmund Dowell 11

Edmund is with siblings in 1901

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Name: Edmund McDowell
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Brother
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Devonport, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Portsmouth
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Ecclesiastical parish: St Marys with St Barnabas
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Portsmouth
Sub-registration District: Portsea and Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 999
Folio: 120
Page Number: 12
Household Schedule Number: 104
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred McDowell 28
May McDowell 19
Edmund McDowell 21

Looks like William died 1897

View England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995

Name: William Mc Dowall
Death Date: 27 Mar 1897
Death Place: Devon, England
Probate Date: 6 May 1897
Probate Registry: London, England


Edit not convinced because the age is way out


MCDOWALL, WILLIAM 63
GRO Reference: 1897 M Quarter in STOKE DAMEREL Volume 05B Page 263

Not Devon - but maybe???

William Henry McDowell
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: William Henry McDowell
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Registration Year: 1895
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 49
Registration District: Sheppey
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 500


EDIT:

But that might be this person:

Births Dec 1845 (>99%)
McDowell William Henry Medway 5 356

thank you both for information i still want to know if he remarried

So look at marriages on freebmd

Found on FMP.
First name(s) William Henry
Last name McDowell********************************Widower. Occ Assistant boiler maker. Address 41, Duke Street
Birth year 1847
Age 34
Year 1881
Marriage date 08 Oct 1881
Place Stoke Damerel
Denomination Anglican
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth Mooringe
Spouse's last name Boswarva
Spouse birth year 1852
Spouse's age 29
Father's first name(s) William Henry
Father's last name McDowell
Spouse's father's first name(s) John Robert
Spouse's father's last name Boswarva

Elizabeth lied about her age at marriage - she was 37.

Elizabeth Boswarva
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Elizabeth Boswarva
Registration Year: 1844
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 9
Page: 424


Elizabeth Boswarva
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Boswarva
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Egg Buckland
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County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration District: Plympton St Mary
Sub-registration District: Yealmpton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9a
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 37
Piece: 1877
Folio: 655
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Gregg 70 - schoolmistress
Celia Green 22 - teacher
Ann Faylor 20 - scholar
Julia Kenyon 16 - scholar
Augusta Pafsingham 16 - scholar
Melina Soper 9 - scholar
Elizabeth Boswarva 6
Rebecca Devey 36 - general servant
Ann Croker 24 - cook


Elizabeth Boswaroa
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Boswaroa
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: 1845
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Adalina Boswaroa
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Charles
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration District: Plymouth
Sub-registration District: Charles the Martyr
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 21
Piece: 1438
Folio: 34
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Adalina Boswaroa 40
Elizabeth Boswaroa 16
Frederick Boswaroa 9 - Plymouth
Mary Gorddord 4
Maria Bath 45



Parents in 1851:

Adeline E Boswarna
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Adeline E Boswarna
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John R Boswarna
Gender: Female
Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Plymouth St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration District: Plymouth
Sub-registration District: Charles
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 115
Piece: 1878
Folio: 91
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
John R Boswarna 31 - Plymouth
Adeline E Boswarna 31 - Islington, London.
John F Boswarna 9 - South Australia, Adelaide


Adaline Elizabeth Morrison
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Adaline Elizabeth Morrison
Registration Year: 1838
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Stoke Damerel
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 9
Page: 540
Records on Page:
Name
John Robert Boswarva
Adaline Elizabeth Morrison

The pariish record on FS says Adeline was a spinster, of 10 Fore(?) Street, and her father was Francis Morrison, mariner.
John was a bachelor, accountant, of 20 James Street. His father was John boswarva, accountant.


But the children's mmn is Austin:

BOSWARVA, ELIZABETH mmn AUSTIN
GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 09 Page 424

BOSWARVA, FREDERICK mmn AUSTIN
GRO Reference: 1851 D Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 09 Page 401

A tree on Ancestry says he died in 1897 - not so - that man was born in 1834

1881

41, Duke Street, Devonport Stoke-Damerel, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England

William H Mc Dowell Head Married Male 34 1847 Asst Boiler Maker Devonport, Devon, England
Edith Mc Dowell Wife Married Female 35 1846 - Penryn, Cornwall, England
Elizabeth Mc Dowell Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar Devonport, Devon, England
Alfred Mc Dowell Son Single Male 10 1871 Scholar Devonport, Devon, England
William Mc Dowell Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Devonport, Devon, England
Emily Mc Dowell Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Devonport, Devon, England
Edmund Mc Dowell Son Single Male 2 1879 - Devonport, Devon, England


QED

First name(s) Edmund
Last name McDowell
Birth year 1879
Address Portsmouth
Admission Year 1892
Discharge year 1892
County Hampshire
Country England
Institution name Portsmouth Board Of Guardians
Register type Workhouse Register
Year Range 1891-1895
Archive reference BG/W2/2
Archive
Portsmouth History Centre

First name(s) Wm Hy
Last name McDowell
Birth year 1847
Address Portsmouth
Admission Year 1892
Discharge year 1892
County Hampshire
Country England
Institution name Portsmouth Board Of Guardians
Register type Workhouse Register
Year Range 1891-1895
Archive reference BG/W2/2
Archive
Portsmouth History Centre
Record set Hampshire, Portsmouth Workhouse Registers

Admission 2nd January. Discharge 11th January.

John Robert Boswarva was a Clerk according to his daughter's marriage cert

Her address at the time was Christ Church, Plymouth

Witnesses H Boswarva and A Boswarva

1871 - Susanna Temple is said to be Adaline's mother. If so, she must have remarried after Adeline's biirth.


Adaline Boswarva
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Adaline Boswarva [Adaline Temple]
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: 1818
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Islington Middlesex England
Civil parish: St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Plymouth
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 259
Piece: 2119
Folio: 25
Page number: 43
Household Members Age Relationship
Adaline Boswarva 53 Head
Fredk Boswarva 20 Son
Susanna Temple 83 Mother - Plymouth
Elizabeth Stephens 73 Aunt - Plymouth


Susanna Temple
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Susanna Temple
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1788
Gender: Female
Where born: Devon, England
Civil Parish: Charles The Martyr
Hundred: Roborough
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
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Registration District: Plymouth
Sub-registration District: Charles the Martyr
Neighbors:
Piece: 271
Book: 1
Folio: 14
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Wallace 50
Betty Vosper 75
Thomas Temple 72
Susanna Temple 53
Ellen Temple 15 - Devon
Caroline Temple 12 - Devon
Elizabeth Stephens 43

To answer part of Joysie's question - no, William and Elizabeth didn't have any children, as far as I can see - unless the names are extremely badly mistranscribed..


Adeline's son John (John F in 1851 census):

John Thomas Boswarva
in the UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927
Name: John Thomas Boswarva
Estimated Age: 23
Birth Date: 1841
Birth Place: Adelaide, South Australia
Issue Date: 8 Mar 1864
Issue Port: Plymouth
Certificate Number: 30.618


John Thomas Boswarves
in the Australia, Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981
Name: John Thomas Boswarves
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 9 Dec 1841
Baptism Place: Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
Residence Place: Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
Father: John Robert Boswarves
Mother: Adeline Boswarves
FHL Film Number: 951872

Name: Lucy Mooringe
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 10 Jun 1785
Baptism Place: Stoke Damerel,Devon,England
Father: Joseph Mooringe
Mother: Mary

Name: John Boswarva
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 01 Oct 1815
Marriage Place: Stoke Damerel,Devon,England
Spouse: Lucy Morringe

thank youboth very much for all the info you have sent me i am very gratefull

The 1815 marriage posted by ErikaH looks like probably Adeline's husband's parents' marriage.



Lucy Boswarra
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Lucy Boswarra
Registration Year: 1854
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume: 5b
Page: 192


Lucy Boswarva
England, Devon Bishop's Transcripts, 1558-1887
Name: Lucy Boswarva
Age: 68
Death or Burial Date: 07 Feb 1854
Death or Burial Place: Plymouth, Devon, England
Birth Year (Estimated): 1786
Digital Folder Number: 005883412
Image Number: 00049


Lucy Boswaver
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Lucy Boswaver
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1787
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Boswaver
Gender: Female
Where born: Stoke, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Plymouth St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration District: Plymouth
Sub-registration District: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 1x
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 97
Piece: 1879
Folio: 774
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
John Boswaver 59
Lucy Boswaver 64
Joseph M Boswaver 28