Re the Live and Let Live, in the court reports posted by Alviegal -
Yesterday I found a census with Norrises at the Live and Let Live. I thought I'd posted it, but obviously didn't - and now I can't for the life of me find it again! Aaaaghh!
EDIT: Here it is. This William Norris is the father of Susan, Samuel, etc. I was sure I'd posted it somewhere. However, I'll post it here (again ?)
In 1861 he's in Back Street, Brentwood, claiming to be married to Ann Groves, then in 1871 he's at the Live and Let Live, and they're not "married" any more.
William Norris in the 1861 England Census Name: William Norris Age: 54 Estimated Birth Year: 1807 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Norris Gender: Male Where born: Stock, Essex, England Civil Parish: South Weald Town: Brentwood County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: - Back Street Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration District: Billericay Sub-registration District: Brentwood ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 37 Piece: 1075 Folio: 6 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age William Norris 54 Ann Norris 24 Joseph Norris 15 - son, Downham, Essex Eliza Groves 5 - daughter-in-law (step-daughter), Abridge, Essex
William Norris in the 1871 England Census Name: William Norris Age: 64 Estimated Birth Year: 1807 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Stock Essex England Civil parish: Brentwood Town: Brentwood County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration district: Billericay Sub-registration district: Brentwood ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 23 Piece: 1656 Folio: 7 Page number: 5 Household Members Age Relationship William Norris 64 Head, widower Ann Groves 23 Servant, unmarried Eliza Groves 15 Daughter James Ward 60 Lodger
Address: The Live and Let Live
There are a few possibilities for Eliza's birth:
GROVES, ELIZA - GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 39
GROVES, ELIZA - GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in ONGAR Volume 04A Page 67
GROVES, ELIZABETH - GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 34
I don't see Joseph's birth .
William's wife (mother of Susan, Samuel, etc) - nee Robinson - died in 1845:
Ann Norris in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Ann Norris Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Death Registration Place: Billericay, Essex, United Kingdom Death Date: Jun 1845 Inferred Death Place: Essex, United Kingdom Volume: 12 Page: 11
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