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Hi Cherilyn.
I am trying to trace the movement of Herbert Albert Owers born 1909 Braintree Essex England.
With the help of Genes Reunited Community Find My Ancesters they have found ==
Herbert Albert Owers Departing from England 27thOctober 1927 for Sydney Australia

Also a marriage to Henrietta E Barnsley 1930 .

I have aslo been given Austarlian Electoral Rolls for ===
1930 NSW Eden Monara Bega
1937 NSW lANG Marrickville
1943 NSW East Sydney Foveax
1949 NSW Barton Oatley
1958NSW Barton Oatley
1980 NSW Roberson Woy Woy

I just wonder if it would be possilbe to find out who Herbert Albert Owers is living with Please On the Electorols Rolls Please
Maybe wifes and children ect,and any more information Please
I have been given your name by Chris from Genes Reunited
From Olive Jean Bowler

Hello Cherilyn,

Can you please do a look up for me from NSW. Death of Major (Christian Name) Walker and Margaret Elizabeth Walker (Nee Armour) and birth look up to see if they had children born in NSW

Thank you Cheryl

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1311393

(just to give you the link Cherilyn, for Olive, with help given so far!)

Chris :)

Cherilyn

A link for Cheryl' posting too

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1311406


Cheryl, have been back to your thread, there is lots of info that has been found, including the death of Major and a child for the couple that Shirley founr - with a photo :-)

Thanks Gins & Chris :-D

I have posted on Olive & Cheryl's thread directly...

Hi Cherilyn
Thankyou so much for the wonderfull information you have found me on Herbert Albert Owers born 1909 England.Even his Army WW2 INFO
It will be intertesting to see if he married again
Bye for now and Thankyou
Olive
:-)

My great great grandfather, Louis Hansen, was born in Heligoland in 1813. I understand at that time it was a British possession. He later settled in South Australia where his name became anglicized to Lewis Hanson. I am trying to find out the names of his parents. Can anyone advise?

David

Hi David
Do you know when he died? From newspaper notices at NLA Trove it appears he was deceased between 1872 (when his daughter Sarah married) and 1882 (when his dson James married). His wife Eliza (nee SHANNON) died in 1865. They lived in Woodville.

HANSEN / HANSON Lewis, Eliza SHANNON married on 1841-08-03
HANSEN / HANSON Lewis/Louis (crew?) arrived 1837-10-16 on Solway from Hamburg [Source:7,26,41]
HANSEN / HANSON Lewis/Louis, Eliza SHANNON, parents of child born 1842-06-12 named Catherine Ann at Albert Town

Eliza's arival with her father and siblings:
SHANNON James (w?), Geo, Jane, Isabella, Eliza, James arrived 1838-10-11 on Surry (Surrey) from London [Source:2,7(also T NAUGHTON, L HANSON),20,23(2,1),26,41]

Marriage cert (1841) or, failing that, death cert would be your best bet.

Ah, here he is:

The South Australian Advertiser, Saturday 1 February 1879
HANSON.—On the 28th January, at Ballarat, of heart disease, Lewis Hanson, late of Woodville, aged 70 years.


The Victorian death reg (3560) gives his age as 66 but sadly no parents are mentioned.

Hi Cherilyn
Thanks for your help. Unfortunately I am not having much luck trying to trace his parents.
Kind regards
David

Hi There,
We are so hoping you can can help.

Eliza Jane Nankerves came to Australia round 1853 I think she was born in Cornwall England 1839. She had 3 marriages her last to Arthur Scoullar they married in Collingwood Victoria. She had two children by one of her first marriages one little boy not living. but we are not sure what happened to the surving one did arthur adopt him or not/? They went on to have a family. The came to N.Z. at some stage. We have a great grandfather John Donaldson Scoullar but don't know how he fits into the picture. he could be the little boy.

regards Carol

Hi Carol

Happy to help if I can; not sure how much of the detail you already have. Poor Eliza had a bad run of it.

Eliza Jane NANKERVIS married Samuel DUNSTON in 1853 at Independent Congregational Church in Melbourne. They had a son named John DUNSTONE in 1854 in Collingwood (reg 3225). A Samuel DUNSTAN died in 1854 aged 21 in Melbourne (reg 5278).

Eliza DUNSTON married WmTEMBY in 1856 (reg 191). They had a son named Wm Hy in 1857 in Collingwood (reg 4210, TENBY); sadly, he died aged 2 in 1859 (reg 3002, TIMBY). Both show mother as Eliza NANKERVIS/NANCURVIS. Likely death for Wm as Wm TENBY in 1858 aged 23 (reg 3364).

Arthur SCOULLAR married Eliza Jane TINBY in 1860 (reg 246). They had a daugher named Annabella in 1861 (reg 266) and another, Amelia, in 1862 (reg 20131, as SCHOOLER), mother as Eliza Jane NANKERVIS. Both born in Collingwood.

No reference to John Donaldson SCOULLAR sorry, unless John DUNSTON was renamed later. Seems unlikely since he was already 6 when his mother remarried Arthur!

Hi Cherilyn,
We always wondered if she had two living sons as one was John Dunston and the other John Donaldson, it was probably a mix up between Dunston / Donaldson somewhere along the line, mistakes were made weren' they?. We think Arthur scoullar adopted him.Not too sure on that one. Some of the family have Dunston and some Donaldson in their childrens names. Thankyou so much you have been a great help. I appreciate it a lot.
Kind regards.
Carol.

From PapersPast:

Otago Daily Times , Issue 6307, 29 April 1882, Page 2
DEATH.
On the 25th April, at York place, Florence, the beloved daughter of Arthur and Eliza Jane Scoullar, of typhoid fever; aged 17 years.

Otago Daily Times , Issue 7557, 7 May 1886, Page 2
MARRIAGE.
On the 26th April (Easter Monday), at St. Pauls Church, by the Venerable Archdeacon Edwards, Edmund James to Amelia, second daughter of Arthur Scoullar, of this city.

There is also a photo of Arthur there from around this period, with a very impressive beard!

Star , Issue 6521, 26 June 1899, Page 3
The death is announced of Mr A. Scoullar, of the firm of Messrs Scoullar and Chisholm. Mr. Scoullar, who was formerly a prominent Dunedin citizen, was seventy years of age.

Auckland Star, Volume LVIII, Issue 167, 18 July 1927, Page 9
MR. ALEXANDER SCOULLAR.
(By Telegraph -Press Association.) WELLINGTON, Sunday. Mr. Alexander Scoullar, second son of the founder of the firm of Scoullar, Chisholm, and Company, furniture manufacturers, of Wellington and Dunedin, died to-day. He leaves a widow and one son.


Any connection?

The Sydney Morning Herald, Wednesday 30 September 1914
SCOULLAR-RENAUT.-September 25, 1914, at Christ Church, Sydney, by the Rev. Clive Statham, Victor, eldest son of Mr. and Mrs. Arthur Scoullar, of New Zealand, to Linda, only daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Charles Renaut, of Blayney.

Yes that makes sense, Donaldson/Dunstan.

Here's their emigration from Victoria to NZ with John, Annabella and baby Amelia, in case you don't have it:

SCOULLER A 32 GOTHENBURG I FEB 1863 OTAGO FEB 1863 009
SCOULLER —- MRS 28 GOTHENBURG I FEB 1863 OTAGO FEB 1863 009
SCOULLER —- CHILD WITH 5 GOTHENBURG I FEB 1863 OTAGO FEB 1863 009
SCOULLER —- CHILD WITH 3 GOTHENBURG I FEB 1863 OTAGO FEB 1863 009
SCOULLER —- INFANT WITH I GOTHENBURG I FEB 1863 OTAGO FEB 1863 009

Cherilyn your amazing, Yes thats them and Arthur was the businessman. I don't know if the Victor is any connection that I've heard of but you never know! I'm so thrilled. Thankyou.

HI again

Hope you are still checking...just found Victor's WWI enlistment. Could he be a son of Arthur jnr?

SCOULLAR Victor Emmanuel : Service Number - 105 : Place of Birth - Wellington New Zealand : Place of Enlistment - Sydney NSW : Next of Kin - (Father) SCOULLAR Arthur W

He was 24 when he enlisted in 1914. He was a motor driver. HIs father, as next of kin, had the address of Featherstone St, Wellington. Hope this rings a bell! (Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on how you look at it!, he did not embark, and was charged with desertion.)

His NZ birth:
1891/9562 Scoullar Victor Emmanuel / Harriet Amanda / Arthur William

Arthur & Hart married in 1891; he died in 1956 aged 88, which means he is the one who was born in 1868, son of Arthur & Eliza Jane! So Victor was their grandson :-)

Have you checked out www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ ? You can order Arthur & Eliza Jane's probates and also download NZ WWI records, plus some other bits and pieces. Enjoy! :-D

Oh Cherilyn, I found where Victor Scoullar died aged 25, so looked up papers past and he died either accidently falling from a train or deliberate. I think with his record it was probably suicide.
Poor boy

How awful. His poor wife too. :(